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Re: The Nintendo news and discussion thread

Post by hazeredmist » January 17th, 2018, 9:08 pm

Aye, all fair points particularly RE achievements, it just feels a bit weird that Nintendo aren’t doing it I guess. I too buy games physically wherever possible, with some exceptions.

Speaking of this, I’ve got Sine Mora EX which I’ve realised isn’t for me, only played a couple of times - does anyone fancy doing a trade?

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Re: The Nintendo news and discussion thread

Post by Stanshall » January 17th, 2018, 10:06 pm

Nintendo Labo!

What the hell is it? Fair play. I expected some Skylanders clone junk or something but that looks pretty bonkers. Never seen anything like it, in fact!

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Re: The Nintendo news and discussion thread

Post by Flabyo » January 17th, 2018, 10:14 pm

Well that is certainly a ... thing... that exists...

No idea how that will do. I’m so far outside the target audience for it, I’m not even going to snark about it any more than that.

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Re: The Nintendo news and discussion thread

Post by Suits » January 17th, 2018, 10:15 pm

Not what I expected.

Not what I want.

Dunno, lol.

I’d have preferred a Vitality sensor I think. That said, I’m not 7 anymore, so maybe this will be incredible to little people. Some of the ideas seems cool, I like the way you can colour your creations.

A little red & white Nintendo piano will be fun, for 30 seconds.

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Re: The Nintendo news and discussion thread

Post by hazeredmist » January 17th, 2018, 11:14 pm

Nintendo taking budget VR to a new level

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Re: The Nintendo news and discussion thread

Post by ratsoalbion » January 17th, 2018, 11:19 pm

Something totally different. I think it’s great. Not for me perhaps but delightful nonetheless.

Not cheap though, which might be a sticking point for those otherwise keen.

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Re: The Nintendo news and discussion thread

Post by Joshihatsumitsu » January 17th, 2018, 11:23 pm

That is bonkers... and I'm kinda on board with it just out of sheer curiosity.

But then, for the sake of context, the Virtual Boy appeals to me. Not because it worked (I didn't really), but just because Nintendo is refreshingly bonkers.

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Re: The Nintendo news and discussion thread

Post by Stanshall » January 17th, 2018, 11:35 pm

Having watched the trailer a few more times, I'm blown away by the sheer invention involved. How long have they been sitting on this? I also love the prospect that it's now its own series which can run and run. How far will they push the concept? You just know they've got some magic up their sleeves for Christmas. I think they're going to make an absolute killing. It's obviously the cost of a full price game but I think kids are going to go mental for this. I'll be getting the variety pack day one. Total genius. It's not the same industry as gaming consoles, really. There's nothing like it.

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Re: The Nintendo news and discussion thread

Post by Suits » January 18th, 2018, 8:01 am

From what I have seen it looks as if there are a few sets of cardboard sheets per box (so it's not a one and done set) for each particular model.

I'm interested in how accurate the pieces will be (although I'm confidant in it's design) how many times will you be able to play the piano instrument and get what you want it to do until you have to use another cardboard set.

Also, I'm looking forward to seeing what the applications are for the each model and how Nintendo make them fun.

It's just a shame Charles is only 8 months old really :lol: .

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Re: The Nintendo news and discussion thread

Post by KSubzero1000 » January 18th, 2018, 9:56 am

Like others, this absolutely isn't for me. But even then, I do have concerns about the durability of the set. Cardboard isn't exactly the most solid and resistant material. I can easily imagine entire sets quickly being rendered useless through wear and tear, users stumbling around, pieces coming into contact with fluids or even something as seemingly innocuous as the wrong fold somewhere.

The utopian examples shown in the trailer of kids patiently assembling the model by way of carefully following the instructions and later using them with perfectly disciplined movements inside an empty white room are unlikely to correspond to any real world implementations.

I don't know, this seems like a lot of frustrated consumers waiting to happen. Am I missing anything obvious here?

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Re: The Nintendo news and discussion thread

Post by hazeredmist » January 18th, 2018, 10:29 am

Yep, I am absolutely not going to be laying a £300 console on a cardboard cradle tethered by string to a cardboard controller for a child to play fishing, and inevitably yank too hard when they get a bite and send said console smashing into a nearby wall. It looks like it will either last two minutes, or put your console at fairly serious risk in the hands of the target audience to me. The whole thing seems quite ridiculous, lovely in a CBeebies way but it might be one of those situations where the concept is almost crazy enough to work.

This is kinda what Nintendo are when their R&D department are let loose with a few quid. So we shouldn't be surprised. I hope it is a success for them, but I'm not going to pretend it's even remotely of interest to me I'm afraid.

Here's hoping we get a decent Direct soon with some fresh games!

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Re: The Nintendo news and discussion thread

Post by Craig » January 18th, 2018, 11:10 am

Love the idea, but as with others it's not for me. Although most folk probably thought "ah that'll be great for kids", I actually immediately thought of my Dad who loves to make and play with toys like this. In retrospect, it was a smart move to release the Nintendo direct last week to assure folk that yes, there are still games coming for "core" gamers.

What this is most comparable is DIY science kits you often see around. It looks like it'll show you how it works, which is neat. It does seem a little on the pricey side, but if you grab 4 or 5 of those science kits together, you'd probably arrive at a similar price.

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Re: The Nintendo news and discussion thread

Post by Suits » January 18th, 2018, 9:40 pm

I'll more than likely pick up a Variety Pack and see what it's all about, not the Robot one mind as that will involve too much commitment but the piano and other things will be fun enough to build and try out.

It's great to see how generally positive reception on the internet has been to all of this though.

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Re: The Nintendo news and discussion thread

Post by ratsoalbion » January 18th, 2018, 11:24 pm

Labo has certainly impressed somebody because its reveal added $1.4bn to Nintendo's market value:

David Gibson (of investment firm Macquarie) made the prediction that Nintendo Labo would initially sell somewhere between 1m and 2m units - which is around $45m-$90m in operating profits.
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2018/0 ... ndos_value

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Re: The Nintendo news and discussion thread

Post by KSubzero1000 » January 18th, 2018, 11:28 pm

...What the hell?

I... I feel old and out of touch.

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Re: The Nintendo news and discussion thread

Post by Whippledip » January 19th, 2018, 12:06 am

Seems like Nintendo actually has some decent long term plans this go around. Maybe time to invest long term?

Also I think people vastly underestimate how strong cardboard can be. I worked in a shipping warehouse a few years back and (depending on type) those fuckers can take an almighty beating. We used to have cut them down to fit in a compactor and it was tough. The end of the day my arms would feel like concrete tubes attached to my shoulders.

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Re: The Nintendo news and discussion thread

Post by ratsoalbion » January 19th, 2018, 12:18 am

Also you don't have to use the provided cardboard. The templates will be available online for free.
Obviously you'll still need the game card(s) though!

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Re: The Nintendo news and discussion thread

Post by KissMammal » January 19th, 2018, 1:44 am

I think people might be missing the point a little with this - isn't the whole point that these things are disposable? You build a few things, play around with it, then maybe upload a video of your creation to Youtube before chucking it all in the recycling. Certainly beats wasteful limited-use plastic peripherals.

As many others have said - Labo doesn't interest me and I certainly won't be buying any of it, but then it really isn't aimed at me - it's for kids.

I'm not convinced it will end up being anything other than another Nintendo folly, but I find it heartening that they can still come up with this stuff that's completely out of left field. They've spent the last year falling over themselves to win back traditional gamers - fair enough if they want to branch out for a bit.

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Re: The Nintendo news and discussion thread

Post by hazeredmist » January 19th, 2018, 9:07 am

KissMammal wrote:
January 19th, 2018, 1:44 am
I think people might be missing the point a little with this - isn't the whole point that these things are disposable?
These kits are £59.99 / £69.99, if they're supposed to be disposable there is something drastically wrong here - or I simply don't get it. Either is possible I guess.

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Re: The Nintendo news and discussion thread

Post by kintaris » January 19th, 2018, 11:22 am

hazeredmist wrote:
January 19th, 2018, 9:07 am
KissMammal wrote:
January 19th, 2018, 1:44 am
I think people might be missing the point a little with this - isn't the whole point that these things are disposable?
These kits are £59.99 / £69.99, if they're supposed to be disposable there is something drastically wrong here - or I simply don't get it. Either is possible I guess.
Isn't £59.99 the RRP of most Switch games anyway? And this comes with some sort of software? So you're paying a bit extra for the official cardboard, after that you could replace using printables if the first one gets wrecked (and we don't know how durable they are yet).

I had LEGO Star Wars kits back in the day that came with software that allowed you to program it. Cost a little more than an average PC game at the time. I immediately lost some bricks that my parents had to replace with whatever they could find. But they were paying mainly for the software.

This is innovation in terms of the concept, but the potential costs involved don't seem any more or less mind boggling than my experience in the 90s!

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