Ghouls 'n Ghosts - Cane and Rinse 345

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Ghouls 'n Ghosts - Cane and Rinse 345

Post by ratsoalbion » November 28th, 2018, 8:24 pm

“On top of the mazic power, Arthur obtaihed the Psycho Cannon from ST. Michael, then after a dreadful batlle, he finally defeater Lucifer.”

Marking its 30th anniversary, Leon, Karl, Michiel and Ben Cartlidge from One Credit Classics embark once again on that most treacherous of journeys from the Great Demon World Village of Ghouls 'n Ghosts. Tokuro Fujiwara is the cruel director at this theatre of blood, where only countless gruelling auditions will see Knight Arthur get the part, and win back Princess Prin Prin's heart.

Music used in this issue:

1. Stage One by Ayako Mori/Tamayo Kawamoto
2. End by Tamayo Kawamoto

Cane and Rinse 345 was edited by Jay Taylor.

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Post by KSubzero1000 » November 28th, 2018, 10:28 pm

Excellent show. Ben has continuously been a highlight on every show he's been on thanks to his passionate and knowledgeable contributions. Him and Michiel have fantastic chemistry as well. I hope he sticks around! :P

Plus good research, hosting, lively integration of forum contributions, etc... All bases covered. Not gonna lie, there have been quite a few episodes this year that made me think that your diligence may have slipped a little. But this is great stuff. More of that caliber for Volume 8, please!

The show (and Ben's video) made me look into perhaps trying Ghouls 'N Ghosts for myself but it doesn't look like it's available on any platform I own (and I unfortunately didn't download it when it was on Wii VC), so I'm afraid I missed the boat on this one. Shame... :(

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Post by ratsoalbion » November 29th, 2018, 12:53 am

My diligence doesn’t slip, it’s just that sometimes time and job pressures don’t allow me to spend as much time putting the show together as others. This has always and will always be the case while I have to work full time (and maintain personal relationships) as well as spending at least as many hours again (and usually many more) on Cane and Rinse.

Please never mistake that for a lack of care or effort on my part.

Even the ‘least prepared’ shows in the modern era generally have far more time spent on them than the early podcasts did.

For the record, this one was actually put together about as quickly and easily as any this year; in fact the Ghosts ‘n Goblins show probably took three times as long to put together.

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Post by dezm0nd » November 29th, 2018, 6:10 am

Appreciate the positive feedback on the show despite the sly back handed dig. We always try to make the best show possible but as leon already said theres are many variables which prevent shows from being the very best to your tastes.

Dont also forget amongst all those things listed above getting in the way that we are humans with emotions and even being a slightly off on the day of recording can affect it.

We all put a lot of time into this thing and for us to be told that we're sometimes slipping doesnt help. Wouldve prefered some more constructive feedback.

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Post by KSubzero1000 » November 29th, 2018, 10:10 am

Argh, sorry guys, I wasn't trying to be mean about it! Perhaps "diligence" wasn't even the right word to use... :(

Let me reassure you that I know and totally appreciate the time and effort you guys put into the show. Now I'm afraid I came across significantly more negative than I intended to...

More constructive feedback would be: I think games with a high skill ceiling definitely benefit from an expert or dedicated perspective among the panel, it's sometimes noticeable that not everyone is necessarily up to date with the research that the host has put together, and I like it when community contributions can be a launching off point for further discussion (on this particular point: I think Leon knows how to hit the sweet spot between seamless integration and keeping the conversation flowing, other hosts struggle with this a bit sometimes and the transitions can be somewhat dry and abrupt).

Anyway, I thought this particular episode was a good example of everything coming together very nicely.


PS: Sorry again, it was late and I didn't proofread enough to make sure I was making my point very well, apparently. I can see now how it may seem like a back handed dig, which it wasn't meant to be. My mistake.

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Post by ratsoalbion » November 29th, 2018, 11:20 am

No worries, appreciate the clarification.

And certainly I don’t want people thinking that we only accept adulation as feedback, but one thing I won’t accept is the suggestion of any laziness, especially relative to so many games podcasts which consist of turning up, turning on the mics and recording hot takes, banter and in-jokes for a couple of hours before barely editing it then putting it out.

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Post by KSubzero1000 » November 29th, 2018, 12:02 pm

ratsoalbion wrote:
November 29th, 2018, 11:20 am
one thing I won’t accept is the suggestion of any laziness
Yeah, and this is totally where I messed up my feedback, because the effort you all put into this is apparent and I would never want to suggest any kind of complacency on your part. I've dipped in and out of many gaming podcasts over the years and most of them feel rather amateurish in comparison.

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Post by dezm0nd » November 29th, 2018, 2:37 pm

Appreciate the clarity. None of us go into these podcasts and think "ill give it 70%" today.

That also goes for the hosting we do. We all have our own style and yes, when i do step in, im absolutely terrrified of living up to the standards of previous issues which probably explains why the chat may not flow as well as you'd hope.

We do alright, here and sometimes that popularity we have behind us can sometimes lead to a build up of anxiety and nervousness when stepping in for the irregular hosting job.

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Post by ratsoalbion » November 29th, 2018, 3:01 pm

Plus of course only hosting a handful of shows a year means that you guys don’t get as much practice as I do.

Genuinely though, many of the most well-received shows of 2018 have been those not hosted by me (and deservedly so).

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Post by Stanshall » November 29th, 2018, 3:23 pm

Might read as sycophantic but I'm not bothered, one of my favourites this year was the FC2 show and I've not even played the game.

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Post by Simonsloth » November 29th, 2018, 5:10 pm

I’ve really enjoyed this whole year and think there’s rarely been a drop in quality.

I do agree with Ksub that having a panelist with a specialist interest does add a little sparkle (maybe he’s trying to get invited onto more episodes haha).

Similarly having members of the team with ridiculous levels of affection (or hatred) for a game (like Jay with Horizon/Heavy rain) helps too.

I know that this is not always possible and that the blood, sweat and tears that go into this ridiculously efficient machine must be close to running dry. I don’t think anyone doubts that.

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Re: Ghouls 'n Ghosts - Cane and Rinse 345

Post by dezm0nd » November 29th, 2018, 5:32 pm

Stanshall wrote:
November 29th, 2018, 3:23 pm
Might read as sycophantic but I'm not bothered, one of my favourites this year was the FC2 show and I've not even played the game.

Talking of nerves before a recording...

A 2 person cane and rinse at the last minute with James as host who was also a bit unsure of how it'll go turned out to be a fair few listeners favourites.

Thank you!

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Post by Stanshall » November 29th, 2018, 7:59 pm

Not at all. I do really like the house style and think it's been remarkably consistent with a rotating panel over a number of years, but I did particularly enjoy this one partly because it had a slightly different tone, a bit more chatty perhaps, it was zesty! That's the word. It's also one thing I like about the Patreon monthly eps. I wouldn't want the regular house style to change but I enjoy the occasional diversions.

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Post by Simonsloth » November 29th, 2018, 8:57 pm

Stanshall wrote:
November 29th, 2018, 7:59 pm
Not at all. I do really like the house style and think it's been remarkably consistent with a rotating panel over a number of years, but I did particularly enjoy this one partly because it had a slightly different tone, a bit more chatty perhaps, it was zesty! That's the word. It's also one thing I like about the Patreon monthly eps. I wouldn't want the regular house style to change but I enjoy the occasional diversions.
I enjoy the “zesty” episodes too. Thats the perfect adjective for them!

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Post by OneCreditBen » December 4th, 2018, 10:39 pm

Thanks so much for all the kind words. It's been a real pleasure for me to jump in on this season's podcasts, I've really enjoyed it. Everyone is super cool, and the amount of work done by the hosts is crazy. As you probably can tell, the games I really get my teeth into to record for achievement style runs are the ones that I completely fall for, so it's awesome to find an avenue to chat about some of the kookier elements of titles that normal people may not have seen so much of. I'm currently working on some more Ghouls N Ghosts stuff, so hopefully I'll have a bit more content yet. I fancy playing a harder regional version on a harder difficulty on one credit. I think it'd round out my relationship with this series, until I beat Super Ghouls N Ghosts No Death anyway. Thanks again people, you're an awesome community and I'm really thankful for the positive feedback but also the support with One Credit Classics.

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