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Post by duskvstweak » May 17th, 2018, 3:54 pm

I've been reading Tom King's Batman run and I just finished The War of Jokes and Riddles and how I feel about it is pretty much how I feel about the whole run so far. I like it but I want to like it more. As for the The War of Jokes and Riddles, the story never fully clicked for me, and Joker's line, "Who cares about the Riddler" has an element of truth in it. Tom King's dialog and style is artsy, but sometimes it comes across as pretentious. But, who am I to judge, his Batman comics are selling like hotcakes! There's a lot to praise about it, but I found the ending unsatisfying and the big Bat-twist to be hard to swallow and a bit unearned.

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Post by Flabyo » May 18th, 2018, 12:51 pm

That seems to be the angle the Arkham games have taken on the Riddler. That he’s kind of at the side of what’s going on and Batman could basically just ignore him and leave him to the police if he wasn’t so fixated on bringing every criminal down.

In a lot of elseworld stories set ‘in the near future” the riddler is often reformed, having turned his mind to bringing other criminals down instead of just ‘I must prove I’m smarter than batman’. And I tend to find those depictions more interesting.

(Jim Carey just played him as ‘the joker in a different suit’ and that’s just one of many things wrong with that movie...)

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Post by Alex79uk » May 18th, 2018, 1:48 pm

Yeah Riddler had never really featured very heavily throughout the entire Batman history. I did really enjoy Zero Year (New 52 book 4 I think) because he had a major role and it was nice to get a story that wasn't more Joker.

As for Rebirth, I'm just finishing off Snyders New 52 run as well as some other stuff but really want to get round to reading it soon.

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Post by duskvstweak » May 18th, 2018, 3:57 pm

I did enjoy the Riddler in Zero Year but I also liked him in Batman Earth One Vol. 2 (I enjoyed that whole book more than the first). In all honesty, I do think he's one of the Bat's best villains, but The War of Jokes and Riddles just didn't sell him as anyone the Joker would waste time on.

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Post by Alex79uk » May 18th, 2018, 7:32 pm

Ah I've got the Earth One books ready to read at some point. Lately I've been working through a reading list I kind of made for myself. I wanted to do more reading on Robin, so made a TPB list covering the origin of Grayson as Robin, then some of his stuff, then when he becomes Nightwing, before reading about when Jason Todd became and subsequently un-became Robin, followed by Tim Drake. (I've already read plenty of Damien Wayne stuff).

It's been really interesting, actually.

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Post by duskvstweak » May 18th, 2018, 8:37 pm

Alex79uk wrote:
May 18th, 2018, 7:32 pm
Ah I've got the Earth One books ready to read at some point. Lately I've been working through a reading list I kind of made for myself. I wanted to do more reading on Robin, so made a TPB list covering the origin of Grayson as Robin, then some of his stuff, then when he becomes Nightwing, before reading about when Jason Todd became and subsequently un-became Robin, followed by Tim Drake. (I've already read plenty of Damien Wayne stuff).

It's been really interesting, actually.
Un-Became Robin is a very tactful way of putting it. : P

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Post by Alex79uk » May 19th, 2018, 12:30 am

Haha yeah. I have read Death In The Family years back, but looking forward to reading it again when I get to that part of my list!

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Post by Alex79uk » May 21st, 2018, 1:55 pm

Right, that's the entire Batman New 52 run done. I really enjoyed that, and I'm going to say I think Snyder is probably my favourite Batman writer of all time. Court Of The Owls, Death Of The Family and Superheavy were exceptional from start to finish.

Before I jump on to Rebirth I think I'm going to blast through the whole of 100 Bullets. I read about half of it as it was released and loved it. I always thought it would make a good TV show. I seem to remember the quality dropping a bit when it hits the middle third of the series, but always wanted to see how it ends so will plough through!

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Post by duskvstweak » May 21st, 2018, 3:25 pm

Alex79uk wrote:
May 21st, 2018, 1:55 pm
Right, that's the entire Batman New 52 run done. I really enjoyed that, and I'm going to say I think Snyder is probably my favourite Batman writer of all time. Court Of The Owls, Death Of The Family and Superheavy were exceptional from start to finish.

Before I jump on to Rebirth I think I'm going to blast through the whole of 100 Bullets. I read about half of it as it was released and loved it. I always thought it would make a good TV show. I seem to remember the quality dropping a bit when it hits the middle third of the series, but always wanted to see how it ends so will plough through!
Personally, I felt like Snyder was running out of steam near the end, but he's definitely cemented himself as one of the legendary Bat-writers. Death of the Family is a modern classic for sure and, despite it's flaws, there's a lot to like out of Zero Year.

I'm still working through 100 Bullets myself (have been for years...) I like it but never love it. Also, I'm pretty sure there was rumbling of it becoming a TV show? AMC or something like that?

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