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All things Telltale

Post by Simonsloth » June 25th, 2019, 8:30 am

I couldn’t find a similar topic so have made one. Apologies if it’s a duplicate.

I have now just realised that with the closure of Telltale a lot of their games are slowly disappearing from the digital stores. Some of these games never had a physical copy.

I’m also now discovering some of the telltale games I owned on the Wii store and not on other digital stores so I have no way of redownloading them.

A lot of these appear to still be available but episodes 2 onwards are present which you can’t purchase without owning episode 1. I haven’t looked at the Xbox store but they are slowly vanishing from PSN, Steam and GOG.

Very sad times and I would recommend getting them downloaded so if they disappear completely then at least you will have them to play. Strangely I had no desire to replay them until I saw they were gone.

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Re: All things Telltale

Post by FemalePheromones » June 25th, 2019, 9:39 am

It looks like all of Batman, The Walking Dead, Game of Thrones, The Wolf Among Us, Tales from the Borderlands and Minecraft Story Mode are still on the Xbox store.

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Re: All things Telltale

Post by ratsoalbion » June 25th, 2019, 10:11 am

Anything you bought or received via GWG or PS+ should remain downloadable regardless of the games’ availability from storefronts.

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Re: All things Telltale

Post by KSubzero1000 » June 25th, 2019, 10:27 am

ratsoalbion wrote:
June 25th, 2019, 10:11 am
Anything you bought or received via GWG or PS+ should remain downloadable regardless of the games’ availability from storefronts.
Really? What about games which have been completely delisted due to licensing reasons, like Transformers Devastation? Could you still download it from the PS+ library?

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Re: All things Telltale

Post by Flabyo » June 25th, 2019, 10:29 am

Most of the publishing rights have reverted to the owners of the relevant IP.

2k are hoping to get Tales from the Borderlands back up at some point, if only because several characters from it are in Borderlands 3.

The Warner owned ones (Batman, Wolf Among Us) and Disney owned (Guardians of the Galaxy), not heard anything about.

HBO said they’re keen to get the Game of Thrones one back up, but it wasn’t that great anyway.

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Re: All things Telltale

Post by ratsoalbion » June 25th, 2019, 10:35 am

KSubzero1000 wrote:
June 25th, 2019, 10:27 am
ratsoalbion wrote:
June 25th, 2019, 10:11 am
Anything you bought or received via GWG or PS+ should remain downloadable regardless of the games’ availability from storefronts.
Really? What about games which have been completely delisted due to licensing reasons, like Transformers Devastation? Could you still download it from the PS+ library?
Of course. I have dozens of these.

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Post by ratsoalbion » June 25th, 2019, 10:36 am

There may be exceptions (PT possibly), but they are rare.

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Re: All things Telltale

Post by Simonsloth » June 25th, 2019, 3:31 pm

I suppose from my point of view I’m looking at minecraft story mode season 2 which I never bought, tales of monkey island which I own but on the now defunct Wii shop (whoops) and anticipating more disappearances.

I own a fair few games on PS3 but if I’m not mistaken the fact the games are now absent from the storefront means a manual sift through your purchase history which lacks a search function.

All a bit worrying. Probably the first time Ive encountered a set of high profile games I’m bothered about disappearing into the ether.

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Re: All things Telltale

Post by James » June 25th, 2019, 6:58 pm

Yeah, I just checked and Transformers: Devastation is still in my PS4 library. It's not on the PlayStation Store though, so you'll have to check through the 'Purchased' section of your library to install it.

Given the rumours that our PS4 and Xbox One libraries will transfer over, and the new consoles will be backwards compatible, I do wonder whether the licenses for particular games (like those mentioned here) will allow that. I'm thinking of the Rock Band songs that didn't transfer between games or between consoles as relevant comparison here.

In theory we'd still have access to those games via our old consoles, of course. But I'm hoping to trade in my current gen consoles for the new ones on the strength of backwards compatibility, so I'll be paying particular attention to this.

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Re: All things Telltale

Post by Flabyo » June 25th, 2019, 7:28 pm

The rock band 4 songs are kinda interesting actually, quite a few of the ones that didn’t transfer originally now have been (on XBO anyway). If you go to ‘manage game’ you might find a decent chunk of stuff is sitting in your ‘ready to download’ section for it. They basically carried on renegotiating the licences after the game launched.

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Re: All things Telltale

Post by Chopper » June 26th, 2019, 8:52 am

Flabyo wrote:
June 25th, 2019, 10:29 am
HBO said they’re keen to get the Game of Thrones one back up, but it wasn’t that great anyway.
It was probably the worst of late-stage Telltale, and it was still pretty solid! Goes to show the heights the studio was getting to. I was surprised to see Tales from the Borderlands was released almost concurrently with GoT (a month apart), so you can see that they were maybe over-reaching a bit.

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Re: All things Telltale

Post by hazeredmist » June 26th, 2019, 9:00 am

I guess this included the Monkey Island series, Back to the Future too, I enjoyed both of those... It's really sad when things like this happen and terrible for game preservation / history when digital only titles just vanish.

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Re: All things Telltale

Post by clippa » June 26th, 2019, 10:21 am

I can't believe that any reputable developer or publisher would agree to these sorts of deals where the license was set to expire after a few years and the games would have to stop being sold.
Games have a long tail, on pc at least, you see people happily buying 30 year old games on there.
This never used to happen with the old film tie ins in the 80s, did it?
I can't remember terminator 2 or robocop being recalled from the shops.

I suppose it must be worth it, they're not daft, they know what they're doing. The vast majority of their sales must be made in the first couple of months, it must just be peanuts after that.
Very weird, smash and grab franchise tie ins.

I suppose anyone who wants to play these games will have to resort to piracy now.

Telltale ended up making a name for themselves and I'm sure fans of their games would have been happy to play games set in worlds they'd created themselves, I'm sure there was creative people there screaming out for the chance to stretch their imaginations, but that wasn't how it worked, was it? They were just treat like some workhorse, churning out one game after another for the next hot property license, sapped of everything and thrown into the skip.

Makes you fucking sick when you think about it. I wonder what the people who worked there are doing now, if they've been thoroughly disheartened by the whole industry or if they've gone on to better, more fulfilling things.

edit: Four of them set up a new company and worked and that bandersnatch episode of black mirror apparently.

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Re: All things Telltale

Post by Flabyo » June 26th, 2019, 3:28 pm

clippa wrote:
June 26th, 2019, 10:21 am
I can't believe that any reputable developer or publisher would agree to these sorts of deals where the license was set to expire after a few years and the games would have to stop being sold
That isn’t what’s happened here though. In this case Telltale, the publisher, suffered sudden existence failure. You can’t sell games on a digital storefront if there’s no company existing to send the money to.

Physical copies are different in that the money has already moved from retail to distributor to publishers to developer long before you ponied up for it.

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Re: All things Telltale

Post by Flabyo » June 26th, 2019, 3:29 pm

Chopper wrote:
June 26th, 2019, 8:52 am
It was probably the worst of late-stage Telltale, and it was still pretty solid! Goes to show the heights the studio was getting to. I was surprised to see Tales from the Borderlands was released almost concurrently with GoT (a month apart), so you can see that they were maybe over-reaching a bit.
Nah, Guardians of the Galaxy was far worse. Completely rammed with unfunny filler.

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Re: All things Telltale

Post by clippa » June 26th, 2019, 5:27 pm

Flabyo wrote:
June 26th, 2019, 3:28 pm
That isn’t what’s happened here though. In this case Telltale, the publisher, suffered sudden existence failure. You can’t sell games on a digital storefront if there’s no company existing to send the money to.
Oh, right. I just assumed it was a licensing thing.
I've never seen that happen before. Plenty of game studios no longer exist and their games are still available to buy.

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Re: All things Telltale

Post by Chopper » June 26th, 2019, 6:14 pm

Flabyo wrote:
June 26th, 2019, 3:29 pm
Nah, Guardians of the Galaxy was far worse. Completely rammed with unfunny filler.
:lol:

Just goes to show; I put Tales from the Borderlands in that category while I really enjoyed GotG! I think I’m in a minority as regards my harsh views on Tales though.

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Re: All things Telltale

Post by Simonsloth » June 26th, 2019, 6:31 pm

Chopper wrote:
June 26th, 2019, 6:14 pm
Flabyo wrote:
June 26th, 2019, 3:29 pm
Nah, Guardians of the Galaxy was far worse. Completely rammed with unfunny filler.
:lol:

Just goes to show; I put Tales from the Borderlands in that category while I really enjoyed GotG! I think I’m in a minority as regards my harsh views on Tales though.
Shame on you. You’ve gone down in my estimation of you😀

To be honest I loved all of them bar Batman. Strong Bad was probably my favourite because it’s so silly.

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Re: All things Telltale

Post by James » June 26th, 2019, 8:52 pm

Coincidentally, I started Batman: The Telltale Series yesterday, and was compelled enough with the story to see it through all 5 episodes. This was the first of Telltale’s games I’ve played through since The Walking Dead: Season 1.

The limits of Telltale’s formula and engine were pretty apparent, I think. I saw plenty of hitching during cutscenes, and between interactive sections too. I’m also left unsure how much involvement my success or failure with any given QTE had in progressing the story; several times I missed an input and it looked like the attempted action proceeded as it would have anyway. There were also sections where reticles appeared on screen for no apparent reason.

Weird quirks like that didn’t undermine the game or story for me, thankfully. But there were definitely one or two spots where my decisions not only weren’t reflected, but were contradicted. Relatively innocuously, a flashback in the ‘Previously...’ section of an episode showed a different version of a scene than I had played out only 5 minutes before. More of an issue was the game telling me that “Lt Gordon noticed your non-violent approach” to interrogating a suspect, only for Alfred to berate me for “Beating that man half to death” in the very next scene. Very poor.

Overall, I’m glad I played through Batman, but I can’t say that it has compelled me to play the second season. I have a couple of other Telltale series from Gold/Plus, so I’m sure I’ll get to those at some point, but I’m not in any rush.

Anyway, apologies for taking the thread on a bit of a tangent, but it seemed apropos to mention.

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Re: All things Telltale

Post by Flabyo » June 26th, 2019, 9:47 pm

Chopper wrote:
June 26th, 2019, 6:14 pm
Flabyo wrote:
June 26th, 2019, 3:29 pm
Nah, Guardians of the Galaxy was far worse. Completely rammed with unfunny filler.
Just goes to show; I put Tales from the Borderlands in that category while I really enjoyed GotG! I think I’m in a minority as regards my harsh views on Tales though.
That’s the problem with comedy though, it tends to be a lot more subjective than other genres.

The dry, sarcastic, borderline farce stuff in Tales is far more my sense of humour than the cringe comedy and pop culture jokes of the Guardians game.

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