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duskvstweak wrote:
September 25th, 2019, 7:12 pm

REmake and Resi 2 (ps1) were the ones I most enjoyed last year. I didn't play the ps1 Resi 1. I figured the REmake would be the best choice. I'm going to be playing Zero this year.
Zero is the only one I haven't properly played. I downloaded it last year when it was on Game Pass and started it just to have a save file ready and never went back.

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FemalePheromones wrote:
September 25th, 2019, 7:21 pm
duskvstweak wrote:
September 25th, 2019, 7:12 pm

REmake and Resi 2 (ps1) were the ones I most enjoyed last year. I didn't play the ps1 Resi 1. I figured the REmake would be the best choice. I'm going to be playing Zero this year.
Zero is the only one I haven't properly played. I downloaded it last year when it was on Game Pass and started it just to have a save file ready and never went back.
I thought Zero started strongly, but I got soon got bored after I reached the animal statue puzzle much further into the game, couldn’t work it out and never had the motivation to try again.

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Suits wrote:
September 25th, 2019, 10:21 pm

I thought Zero started strongly, but I got soon got bored after I reached the animal statue puzzle much further into the game, couldn’t work it out and never had the motivation to try again.
I'm pretty put off by the item management system to be honest. Apparently there are no item boxes so you have to leave items on the floor and go back to exactly where you left them to get them back. That and some item that clogs your inventory but you have to carry it for most of the game.

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FemalePheromones wrote:
September 25th, 2019, 10:27 pm
Suits wrote:
September 25th, 2019, 10:21 pm

I thought Zero started strongly, but I got soon got bored after I reached the animal statue puzzle much further into the game, couldn’t work it out and never had the motivation to try again.
I'm pretty put off by the item management system to be honest. Apparently there are no item boxes so you have to leave items on the floor and go back to exactly where you left them to get them back. That and some item that clogs your inventory but you have to carry it for most of the game.
Yeah, the item dropping is odd. It removes an essential aspect of Resident Evil for me doing that.

It marks it on your map also when you drop it so you always know where everything is.

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I really like the item management system in Zero, although I might be in the minority on this one.

To me, it adds a much appreciated extra layer of consideration by removing the item box safety net. Do I really need that extra box of handgun ammo? I already have two red+green combos, do I really need that FAS right now? I already have 4 molotov cocktails, is it absolutely necessary to take those napalm grenades? Etc...

Most classic RE games have a pretty drastic difficulty drop at around the two thirds mark - roughly when the player can safely tap into the previously accumulated resources without being at any risk of screwing themselves over. RE2 turns into a straight action game once that item box starts filling up, for example. But Zero's item management helps to maintain that delightful early tension and crucial decision making throughout the entire game.

The aforementioned animal puzzle might be my favorite in the entire series, simply because it's one of the few that doesn't solve itself within a few seconds. But the clues are all written on the statues themselves, no guessing necessary.

The hookshot does take a bit of inventory space, but please keep in mind that you have two inventories' worth of space to store it. It's more than enough with a bit of careful preventive planning.

Zero has its faults, but I'm often surprised at the bad reputation it has. It's not a bad game by any stretch if you're into classic RE. Not to mention how gorgeous so many of its locations are.

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Control fixed itself thankfully and I have to say the more I'm into it the more I'm enjoying it. Already prepared myself for an ending I don't understand. Got some Shining vibes tonight in one section

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KSubzero1000 wrote:
September 25th, 2019, 10:47 pm
I really like the item management system in Zero, although I might be in the minority on this one....
You're really talking me into it. It does kind of bug me as being kind of a black spot in a series that I'm a massive fan of. I'll have to keep an eye out for it being on sale at some point.

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September 26th, 2019, 6:34 am
You're really talking me into it. It does kind of bug me as being kind of a black spot in a series that I'm a massive fan of. I'll have to keep an eye out for it being on sale at some point.
Currently discounted on PS4, if that helps.

Zero is far from a perfect game. It doesn't have the fantastic pacing of 2, the boss fights are rather poor overall, the enemy design is pretty uninspired, the story is even dumber than usual, it has some bullshit difficulty spikes and the level design peaks in the tutorial area, but it is still a solid old-school RE at heart with all the good that that entails. It's not the game I would ever recommend to people who don't get along with the old-school RE structure (certainly not over REmake or RE2 anyway), but from one massive fan to another, I think you're missing out by not playing it at all. I would put it over RE3 and CVX in my personal series ranking, if that's any indication.

I think of it as the Majora's Mask to REmake's OoT. It's the more demanding younger brother that doesn't get the same mainstream recognition and is filled with questionable design choices that might alienate less invested players, but any hardened series fans owe it to themselves to play it anyway. It has more than enough good stuff to make up for the bad stuff. The puzzles are fantastic and the zapping system has its advantages once you understand its intricacies. Not to mention the score:





Keep in mind that the modern HD remaster uses some very noticeable frame cropping by default, so I would recommend selecting the original 4:3 resolution in the options in order to witness the amazing pre-rendered backgrounds in their full intended glory. Save often (as a first-time player I can almost guarantee you will get screwed over at some point). And keep the hookshot within walking distance for the first two thirds of the game, too.

Make sure you have enough time and patience to get into it and give it a fair shot. I don't think you'll be disappointed if you know what to expect going in.

Hope you get something out of it, at least. Let us know how you get on! :)

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I'm on the very last area and final boss of Super Metroid now, and it's been an absolute roller-coaster of a ride!

First impressions were great. Loved the setting and general ambience. The isolated loneliness of exploring this barren land. Then I got stuck, and was convinced I'd taken a wrong turn and couldn't get out of it. So, after four hours or so, started again.

Turns out I wasn't stuck, just approaching the game wrong. See, the hidden paths aren't always just for bonuses, sometimes it's the only way forward. The more I played the more I loved it, opening up the map, it's really quite a big game. I carried on through, beating bosses, and around the eight hour mark really started hoping the end was in sight. Not necessarily because I wasn't enjoying it, but I wanted to move on to another game, and I felt it ever so slightly outstaying it's welcome.

But then I reached the final couple of areas and got sucked right back in. The grapple hook, the space jump, all these upgrades you get right near the end of the game, they made traversal so much easier and more exciting that I started really having fun again. Now I've saved my game right before the very last boss, ready to finish tonight.

It's been a hell of a ride, and totally awesome really. Anyone on the fence about playing this, if you've got even a passing interest in the genre, or platform shooters, give it a go. It really is exceptional.

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Alex79uk wrote:
September 26th, 2019, 9:26 am
I'm on the very last area and final boss of Super Metroid now, and it's been an absolute roller-coaster of a ride!
Very happy to read that. I was afraid you might give up on it halfway through considering how harsh and opaque the game can be in comparison with similar modern titles. Good on you for persevering!

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@KSubzero1000

I'm on Xbox so unfortunately the PS4 sale doesn't help.

Your ranking actually surprises me but I'm one of the seemingly few people that really rates CVX. I'm not massive on 3 really apart from how good the pre-rendered backgrounds are.

I've never been a Nintendo person so your Zelda analogy is lost on me unfortunately.

To be honest thinking back I think I may have gone onto Zero straight off the back of REmake and that's why I felt like I needed a break.

I definitely need to get on it don't I.

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Axiom Verge update:

Gah. I really wish I could get into this game, but it's not going to happen. Tried again last night, spent about 10 minutes trying to kill a boss, worked out the pattern quite easily to give out damage but it was taking SO long to defeat the bastard that I made mistakes due to fatigue alone. It's so boring. Jump over bullets, fire, hit enemy. The yellow shit gradually turns red. rinse, repeat about 40 times, it's still. Not. Dead. Carry on. And on. And on. Die due to being bored, back to save point to start again.

It's not just that - I honestly have no idea how to connect with this type of game. It's a test of memory, patience, boredom. Wandering round trying to find upgrades and things, dealing with samey environments and repetitive enemies.

Now deleted. First time I've done that with a game I've laid out money for on Switch. Shame, there is a lot I like about the game's style but playing it just does my head in.

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Wooh! Lots to unpack!

KSub! I'm gonna use all that Resi 0 advice in a week! Thanks!
Though, unlike Pheromones, you're Majora's Mask comparison has me intrigued. And, what a loaded concept! I'm hoping to enjoy 0!

Alex! I'm glad you pushed through! I'm sure it was at different places, but I also got stuck in SM my first time and stepped away for YEARS. When I did restart, I plowed through it in a weekend and loved it. It's one of my favorite games now. Glad you didn't give up like I first did!

Haze! That's sad to hear, it's on my list and one I've been excited to get to. The game looks so cool. But, if you it's bringing out new game deleting behavior, I'm worried now! How long have you been playing it before deletion?

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duskvstweak wrote:
September 26th, 2019, 3:08 pm
Haze! That's sad to hear, it's on my list and one I've been excited to get to. The game looks so cool. But, if you it's bringing out new game deleting behavior, I'm worried now! How long have you been playing it before deletion?
Ah it's not necessarily something that you should worry about, as I'm coming to accept I just don't like Metroidvanias. The exception being Yoku's Island Express - but that is immeasurably different to this. It's joyful, easy, unique mechanically and relatively short. Axiom is a proper typecast retro-style Metroidvania from what I understand the genre to be, and that simply doesn't gel with me. A good friend of mine absolutely LOVES the game and would heartily recommend it.

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Sayonara Wild Hearts

One of my favourites of the year. Great soundtrack with three or four absolute chart-topping belters in another dimension (Begin Again and Mine, in particular). Derivative but exciting and well paced melange of Rez, Hang On and Ouendan. Stylish, coherent, marvellous, short, replayable.


Link's Awakening

Never played it before. Love a lot about it, especially the soundtrack and the weird tonal kaleidoscope. Disappointed by the frequent frame rate inconsistencies. I'm pretty forgiving of this kind of thing usually but it's very distracting here and prevents me from really sinking into this wonderful little diorama. I'll wait for a patch.


Untitled Goose Game

Funny, playful, beautiful effective art style. I really don't enjoy the Hitman lite gameplay, though, because I find no pleasure in the Hitman games themselves. It's boring to wait for someone to walk past and then run and hope you're not seen or to play with the pathfinding. That does nothing for me. I know I'm missing out but that's my make up.


Okami HD

I finished the first third (or Act, if you like) a while ago and that was the furthest I'd ever got with it. I left it because I felt satisfied with where I finished but I decided to go back and try the next Act. It's just so slow...I really like a lot about the game but mechanically, it's pretty samey and it's a very empty world. It'd be an amazing ten to fifteen hour adventure. This might be my last attempt.


RXN -RAIXIN-

A really average, very grindy, anime shmup thing which is nevertheless oddly compelling for me. I completed the final stage months ago but I didn't actually finish every stage because of branching paths. I wondered whether there might be a special ending for total completion given that the actual ending seemed quite crap. I put in another hour to grind my way through the outstanding stages for the inevitable reward. Oh, there isn't one.


Blade Strangers

Accessible Nicalis-themed 2D anime-style fighter. I really like this. It's kind of shit compared to, say, DBFZ or BlazBlue but it feels good to play, it's straightforward and it's easy to pull off decent little combos and big punishers which always feel satisfying. I've said it before but I wish it had a bigger online playerbase. Currently, there's me.


Space Harrier (SEGA AGES)

One of my earliest arcade memories and the music still gets me pumped up, only now it gets me wistful, too. Get ready! It's between this and OutRun for my favourite Yu Suzuki game and I go back and forth. I love the oddness of the level and enemy design in Space Harrier and despite how bare it is, it creates a rich open space for my imagination to run away. I love this game.

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Hmm yeah, Okami is probably my most ever 'started attempts but never finished' game. Either that or Chrono Trigger (which I bloody loved so I'm just a massive twat for never getting round to finishing it). I just can't get in to Okami, found it so dull. Lovely art style, though. Is it on Switch now? Tempting to give it one more shot because I know everyone who's finished it adores it.

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Games you’ve started but can’t finish... there’s a thread in this

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Today I played through the Mafia 3 demo which is surprisingly large. Almost 2 hours long. I've been somewhat interested in trying out this game on-and-off for a while, but only just discovered this demo. I know this game bitterly split opinions when it came out, but I was actually really impressed with it. The presentation is top notch, and probably the strongest thing about it. I really like the idea of this being a character study being presented as a post-hoc documentary of sorts. The period setting is really great too and feels very authentic, with the way the picture is filtered to look like film footage of the time, and the excellent contemporary soundtrack that is really well used to punctuate action set pieces, as well as being part of the radio stations. The lighting too is fantastic and helps sell the kind of sepia-toned look of the game. The Mardi Gras parade that shows up in one of the missions is also an impressive moment that added a lot of flavour and liveliness to the world. And the animation and acting in the cutscenes is brilliant too. Can't say much for the story as a whole of course, but they did a great job in creating characters that emote in a really human way, and show a range of conflicting emotions. So I really enjoyed inhabiting the world and watching characters play off each other in it. Definitely something I'd like to see more of.

The gameplay of this demo is structured in a rather interesting way too. It's presented as kind of a highlight reel of some of the early missions in the game, where it focuses around a bank heist, but breaks it up with other missions that set up why the heist is happening, and who the characters are. I gather the full game isn't like this, and its structure is what got most heavily criticised, being much more of a slog. Here though, the pacing was fast and snappy, although I would have liked more time to get to know the characters better and see where the story goes after of course. The moment-to-moment gameplay was rather mediocre however. Mostly functional, but not that exciting. Pretty basic open world crime game stuff. You can drive, you can shoot, and you can stealth a bit too. Mostly inoffensive, aside from some sloppy and unfair enemy placement in some spots, and strangely stingy with ammo on occasion too. But not so bad that the good parts couldn't make up for it, in what I played anyway.

So right now I'm back leaning more towards wanting to try the full game out. I didn't much care for Mafia 2, although I didn't hate it. Strangely enough, I feel like this game has far more potential to make good on the stuff that people praise 2 for, but which I was left cold by. Even if it also suffers from some of the same pitfalls.

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hazeredmist wrote:
September 26th, 2019, 8:20 pm
Games you’ve started but can’t finish... there’s a thread in this
Done and done.

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I wasn't on the last boss as I thought on Super Metroid last night. After checking, I was on Ridley or something. Hard bastard, took me a few goes with only six life tanks. Did him though, now on to the final, final boss!

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