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Re: Star Wars

Post by macstat » May 29th, 2018, 6:14 am

I have to disagree with Todinho. I watched it yesterday without any expectations and in the end, was very pleased with how it turned out.
There were maybe two callbacks that were really heavy-handed. Others were often well hidden or done without huge "see what I did there" sign. The cast was great (especially Han and Lando, though Woody also fits his role), visuals were really good and pacing was in my opinion brilliant.
What I think is best about that movie is that it could work well without being a star wars movie. It would be a good sci-fi with a bit of heist movie.

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Post by ratsoalbion » May 29th, 2018, 7:22 am

I’m in the same boat. I found it to be an enjoyable space opera/Western/heist romp.

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Re: Star Wars

Post by Beck » May 29th, 2018, 12:33 pm

Joshihatsumitsu wrote:
May 28th, 2018, 9:54 pm
I have not seen The Last Jedi yet, but I want to watch it less because its a Star Wars film, and more because its a Rian Johnson film.
I'd be really interested to hear your opinion of The Last Jedi on that basis.

I have enjoyed Johnson's previous films and was genuinely excited when I heard he was involved. However, I came away from TLJ with the feeling that he isn't a Star Wars fan, that he doesn't understand the previous films and what made them popular, and that he was out of his depth for TLJ. The risks he took are bizarre to me and did nothing to build on the trilogy. The Force Awakens was flawed but it set the world and was an enjoyable watch that had me interested in the next two films. TLJ undid all of that. On a visual and audio level it was amazing, beyond that it was an incoherent mess that has disengaged me from the series.

I'm trying not to be too negative as you've not seen it. :?

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Re: Star Wars

Post by Joshihatsumitsu » May 30th, 2018, 10:02 pm

Beck wrote:
May 29th, 2018, 12:33 pm
I'm trying not to be too negative as you've not seen it. :?
It's just making time to see it. Since I've started dating my current partner 4 months ago, I've discovered that she still hasn't seen the original Star Wars (and has little interest, though she's willing to be subjected to it!).

I'll have to make special alone time to see it. I love her, absolutely, but she likes to discuss the movie through the movie! :oops: I'm a man... I can't focus on more than one thing at a time!

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Re: Star Wars

Post by Beck » June 1st, 2018, 7:41 am

Nice one on the new relationship :) Getting someone to watch Star Wars for the first time is a dilemma, where do you start? Do you go straight in with the prequels? How do you fit in stand-alone films like Rogue One?

Hahaha, I feel your pain bud. My wife and I have very similar tastes in movies but she's a nightmare for wanting to talk through the film. Thank god for the pause button ;)

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Post by ratsoalbion » June 1st, 2018, 7:44 am

Sorry Joshi but if she talks in the cinema she has to either STOP IT or it’s the elbow.

Tanya (my partner) shushes people who talk during movies. She’s the best.
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Re: Star Wars

Post by Joshihatsumitsu » June 1st, 2018, 10:10 pm

Beck wrote:
June 1st, 2018, 7:41 am
Nice one on the new relationship :) Getting someone to watch Star Wars for the first time is a dilemma, where do you start? Do you go straight in with the prequels? How do you fit in stand-alone films like Rogue One?
I think I'm only going to subject her to the original 1977 Star Wars, and even then it will be the DVD version released in 2008, which includes 2 discs: one being the original version, the other being the George Lucas lets-add-a-ton-more-shit-cuz-I-can version. Needless to say, the second disc is still in mint condition!

And I'm going to frame it to her like this: imagine a parallel universe where Star Wars bombed at the cinema, and there was only this one Star Wars movie. The culture around Star Wars can be off-putting, even to a Star Wars fan, but I want her to ignore all the extraneous pop-culture stuff, and view it as a film.

She'll probably still hate it, but at least she would have seen it and made up her own mine.

I have seen many a rom-com... I think I've built up some goodwill!

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Re: Star Wars

Post by Simonsloth » June 6th, 2018, 1:32 pm

Just saw Solo.

It didn’t really feel like a Star Wars film but I enjoyed it nonetheless.

To me Han was always the comic relief and light hearted aspect to what essentially is quite a dark story. His character works within the original films for that reason.

This actually felt more like serenity/firefly but failed to capture the essence of what made those so special.

It was fun while it lasted but I won’t be rushing out to see it again.

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Re: Star Wars

Post by Joshihatsumitsu » June 12th, 2018, 12:10 pm

I have gone from zero to two more recent Star Wars entries: Solo last week, and The Last Jedi this week.

Didn't really go into Solo with the highest of expectations, but I was pleasantly surprised. It's certainly not perfect:
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the origin story how Han got his surname was about as necessary as how Wolverine got his leather jacket in X-Men Origins: Wolverine :roll:
...but I found it to be an entertaining enough distraction. If nothing else it demonstrates just how much screen presence Harrison Ford had/has, and how that thought occurred to me throughout the film. I would say that Donald Glover fairs a lot better as a young Lando Calrisson - far more charming than Alden is as Han.

And the Last Jedi - people seem to either really love it or hate it - and I fall squarely in the camp of loving it. I found the previous entry, Force Awakens, to be a perfectly competent film. It pretty much recycled A New Hope, Death Star and all, but it was a pretty safe movie, no risks, serviceable, fine - pretty much a J.J. Abrams movie, lens flare included

The Last Jedi though... man, despite all the Stars Wars baggage it inherits, it flows and feels so effortless. The use of colour - the orange hue of the casino scenes, the reds in the Dreadnaught... really bold and stunning. It's surprisingly humorous at times, and effortlessly so. The lightsaber battles feel fresh and inspired. The whole movie feels familiar without feeling recycled.

I've really, really, really like The Last Jedi. Everybody in it is really good. Adam Driver is fantastic, and it's impossible to not love Mark Hamill. I love Star Wars, and I don't just want the same story repeated. The Star Wars universe has plenty of room (and money) to take risks, and it should continue to do so. I'm a Rian Johnson fan, and for very good reason - he's very good at injecting something new into the familiar, and has the talent to back it up.

Not necessarily aching the see the conclusion of this most recent trilogy - Return of the Jedi was the weakest of the original trilogy after all - but hey, maybe not. Maybe they could pull it off.

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