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Re: The World Cup 2018

Post by Alex79uk » June 21st, 2018, 5:51 pm

Yeah that's true, too.

On another note, Peru so deserved to equalise in this game, I'd have loved to see them pull one back against the French.

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Re: The World Cup 2018

Post by KSubzero1000 » June 21st, 2018, 6:06 pm

ratsoalbion wrote:
June 21st, 2018, 5:47 pm
If you say that the best players are being rewarded for their importance to the club with their wages, then is it fair that, in absolute terms, they are then punished *more* than their colleagues for the exact same infraction?
I think it would be fair in relative terms (it would have the same-proportioned impact on everyone's revenue), but not in absolute terms, that is correct. It's the same conundrum as with incremental tax rate, basically.

But my sticking point is that since it's the big star players that have the most influence of others, they're also the ones who should be held to a higher behavioral standard. If they lead the way in terms of sportsmanship, others will be more likely to follow their example. In or out of the stadium.

In an ideal world, you shouldn't have to con grown adults into not cheating at sporting events, but eh. Gotta be pragmatic about such things. Then again, I'm completely out of the loop, so I have no idea how feasible it would be.

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Re: The World Cup 2018

Post by Suits » June 21st, 2018, 6:26 pm

Believe it or not but actually ‘conning’ the officials is considered an integral and lauded aspect of the game in some continents.

It’s just not part of ours (English game).

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Re: The World Cup 2018

Post by ratsoalbion » June 21st, 2018, 7:02 pm

Also, punishments are not always for ‘cheating’ as such. Foul tackles most often come from genuine attempts to win the ball; it’s a contact sport after all.

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Re: The World Cup 2018

Post by Alex79uk » June 21st, 2018, 8:12 pm

What a perfect finish on that Croatian goal! Awful mistake from the Argentinian keeper there!

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Re: The World Cup 2018

Post by Suits » June 21st, 2018, 8:24 pm

Yeah, great technique, didn’t have to hit it hard, just had to hit it right.

Willy Cab’s has always been a bit suspect.

Tasty game this.

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Re: The World Cup 2018

Post by Alex79uk » June 21st, 2018, 8:38 pm

Bloody hell! Incredible second goal! This is an absolute belter of a game!

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Re: The World Cup 2018

Post by Alex79uk » June 21st, 2018, 8:50 pm

Oh my word. A broken team in every way! They have been destroyed!

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Re: The World Cup 2018

Post by Suits » June 25th, 2018, 7:53 am

One of the best things about a World Cup is the different styles, play, approach, officiating and cultures that it brings to the forefront of the game.

Those Senegalese yesterday for brilliant, not only yesterday but previously also.

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Re: The World Cup 2018

Post by Todinho » June 27th, 2018, 4:56 pm

Ok so this might come off as us being sore losers but people here are cheering on South Korea like they were the second brazilian team right now XD ,what an upset though who saw this coming?

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Re: The World Cup 2018

Post by KSubzero1000 » June 27th, 2018, 5:18 pm

I'm seeing crestfallen-looking folks outside and the environment is so silent you could hear a penny drop. Is it safe to assume the german team just got dunked on? :lol:

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Re: The World Cup 2018

Post by ratsoalbion » June 27th, 2018, 5:19 pm

The holders are indeed out. The first time ever that they’ve failed to get through the first stage.

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Re: The World Cup 2018

Post by KSubzero1000 » June 27th, 2018, 5:31 pm

It never ceases to amaze me how tribal people get over sporting events.

I don't follow the World Cup, but I generally like to see underdogs succeed at these things. Nothing beats the contagious enthusiasm from those who overcome incredible odds and it makes for a significantly more spectacular event than if it's just between the same handful of big name favorites.

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Re: The World Cup 2018

Post by ratsoalbion » June 27th, 2018, 7:05 pm

I am always far more amazed by how tribal many people get about *non*-sporting events (videogames)!
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Re: The World Cup 2018

Post by Todinho » June 27th, 2018, 7:51 pm

yeah about tribalism there's saying here that brazilians are only patriots during the World Cup which shows by how people were cheering South Korea on and how my dad is convinced there is a conspiracy among all the referees to screw Brasil over, its certainly weird but its worth if just for all the memes created on twitter XD

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Re: The World Cup 2018

Post by ratsoalbion » June 27th, 2018, 8:02 pm

If anything Brazil have been shown enormous favours by the officials over the years.

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Re: The World Cup 2018

Post by Alex79uk » June 27th, 2018, 9:08 pm

This is probably the most interesting World Cup I can ever remember, and I've been watching them since Mexico 86. I've never seen so many upsets before!

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Re: The World Cup 2018

Post by KSubzero1000 » June 27th, 2018, 9:38 pm

I gotta say, some of the hot takes I'm witnessing on social media are absolutely legendary. So much wanton cruelty and hilarious salt! I'm thinking of buying a korean t-shirt somewhere just to get a rise out of randoms tomorrow. :lol:

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Re: The World Cup 2018

Post by Alex79uk » June 30th, 2018, 5:01 pm

France Vs Argentina - what a game! Possibly the best of the tournament so far I think. Exciting right to the last second, I really thought Argentina might pull it back with that last second attack. Brilliant!

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Re: The World Cup 2018

Post by Todinho » June 30th, 2018, 9:28 pm

Wow Argentina being booted I kinda of saw coming but Portugal I dont think anyone predicted that, Im starting to think people here should start getting concerned about Mexico

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