All Things Jurassic Park

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Re: All Things Jurassic Park

Post by Simonsloth » June 6th, 2019, 7:15 pm

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The only downside is Malcolm spends the second half of the book injured and whacked out on painkillers again. It being Dodgson that infiltrates the island instead of Ingen makes much more sense though. And obviously the less said about the final act of the film the better.
Haha. This was a running joke in my family as like you say he spends most of the book like that. I completely forgot!

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Re: All Things Jurassic Park

Post by KissMammal » June 6th, 2019, 7:23 pm

I heard a rumour once that Spielberg was disinterested in doing a JP sequel, and was very preoccupied with Schindler's List and Saving Private Ryan during production of The Lost World, so largely delegated much of the actual shooting and direction to the second unit, which honestly makes a lot of sense given how uneven that film is.

The Lost World was actually the film that introduced me to the phrase 'plot hole' because of the scene where the ship carrying the T Rex arrives in San Diego with all of the crew dead, despite the T Rex still being secured in the hold. Bit of a head-scratcher, that one...

As I understand it, the mainland ending was tacked on at the last minute in an attempt to preemptively head off the '98 Godzilla (which itself is kind of a rip off of Jurassic Park in some ways).

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Re: All Things Jurassic Park

Post by duskvstweak » June 6th, 2019, 10:39 pm

I recently re-read the books last year and was a bit surprised by how annoying I found Malcolm this time around. As kid, I was fascinated by him in the book, but, now, I have less patience for his holier than thou preaching. I think Jeff Goldblum brought the right amount of quick to the character that helped balance the character's self-righteousness.

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Post by KissMammal » June 6th, 2019, 11:43 pm

Speaking of Malcolm, on my last rewatch over Christmas I really picked up on the dynamic between Malcolm and Grant, something i'd never really noticed before. I'd always assumed that when Malcolm tries the flare trick with the T Rex he's just showing off, but it's actually really well set up on a character level during the first act.

Initially, Malcolm comes across as very cocky and is quite dismissive towards Grant. He straight away tries to hit on Ellie, but is then surprised to discover that she is in a relationship with Grant, and what's more, Grant clearly doesn't consider him a threat.

There's a nice moment later when Grant fills his canteen with rain water by leaving it on the roof of the jeep. He takes a swig then offers it to Malcolm, who sheepishly accepts. It's a very subtle little moment, but it nicely establishes Grant as the more self-assured outdoorsman, and that Malcolm now feels a little intimidated by him. And this is the reason that Malcolm runs at the T Rex with the flare - he's trying to be like Grant, and in the process screws things up for everyone.

Sorry if this is all super obvious - but sometimes you've seen a film so many times that its only when you watch it with someone new that you come to it with fresh eyes and notice these little things.

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Re: All Things Jurassic Park

Post by duskvstweak » June 7th, 2019, 12:10 am

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Speaking of Malcolm, on my last rewatch over Christmas...
Not to negate your whole post, but I did my rewatch of the series last Christmas too! There WAS magic in the air!

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Post by FemalePheromones » June 7th, 2019, 5:10 am

Speaking of Jurassic Park who here isn''t still waiting for a good Jurassic Park Game?

The first time I played Far Cry 3 I thought wow, imagine if this was set in Jurassic Park. OBviously not with the same story but the way that different areas of the map are inhabited by different animals and you could have park workers trapped in different areas of the park that give you missions. I'm not sure there would be enough to fill out an entire game but I would love to be able to actually explore the park.

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Re: All Things Jurassic Park

Post by KissMammal » June 7th, 2019, 9:55 pm

duskvstweak wrote:
June 7th, 2019, 12:10 am
KissMammal wrote:
June 6th, 2019, 11:43 pm
Speaking of Malcolm, on my last rewatch over Christmas...
Not to negate your whole post, but I did my rewatch of the series last Christmas too! There WAS magic in the air!
We watched it with my wife's 13 year old niece - she was a bit scared but loved it. 'Sam Niell reluctantly looks after kids' double bill of Jurassic Park and Hunt for the Wilderpeople.

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Re: All Things Jurassic Park

Post by KissMammal » June 7th, 2019, 9:57 pm

FemalePheromones wrote:
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Speaking of Jurassic Park who here isn''t still waiting for a good Jurassic Park Game?
I have a lot of fondness for the SNES Jurassic Park game.

It's one drawback was that it didn't have a save feature, meaning you had to complete the entire thing in one sitting (or leave your SNES on overnight, which I did...!)

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Post by duskvstweak » June 8th, 2019, 1:19 am

The arcade games have been fun, as have the Operation Genesis and Evolution, but I'm still waiting for something really exciting. Dino Crisis is pretty close.

Actually, as a kid, I LOVED the PS1 Lost World game but never beat the thing. I just liked playing as the dinosaurs and roaring.

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Post by FemalePheromones » June 8th, 2019, 5:48 am

Actually I completely forgot about the Megadrive games which I still ply from time to time on an emulator but really I mean a modern one.

I actually had Operation Genesis as part of the bundle with my OG Xbox but couldn't get on with it with a controller. Same reason I haven't even looked at the latest one.

Dino Crisis is a hell of a shout though. I'm hoping Capcom either bring that IP back or do a RE2 style remake.

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Re: All Things Jurassic Park

Post by Alex79uk » June 8th, 2019, 3:11 pm

I'm currently playing Dino Crisis on my Vita. I wouldn't really say it's stood the test of time so well. Certainly nowhere near as well as Resi 1-3, anyway.

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Post by duskvstweak » June 8th, 2019, 4:33 pm

Yeah, I haven't gone back to it in a long time, so I'm not surprised the mechanics are rusty. But, it's feels like a "truer" Jurassic Park game compared to some of the 2D games.

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Post by Alex79uk » June 8th, 2019, 5:51 pm

I will say though, I am enjoying it. The puzzles are shite, the acting is dreadful and the movement is wonky, but it's still a fun game.

It really suffers from that absurd Resident Evil planning logic. I mean, why on earth would you have a crane in a facility that could only be operated via a puzzle. :lol:

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Re: All Things Jurassic Park

Post by duskvstweak » September 17th, 2019, 4:40 am

Oh. This is so good. Makes me a happy guy.
And, watch the credits.


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Re: All Things Jurassic Park

Post by Suits » September 17th, 2019, 7:59 am

Yeah, I saw that - it’s pretty cool.

But is there an overarching reason for it, is it a series of shorts, or is it setting up the theme/world for another main line film ??

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Re: All Things Jurassic Park

Post by ThirdMan » September 17th, 2019, 8:36 am

Serious question, is Fallen Kingdom worth watching?

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Re: All Things Jurassic Park

Post by FemalePheromones » September 17th, 2019, 11:01 am

ThirdMan wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 8:36 am
Serious question, is Fallen Kingdom worth watching?
Yes but don't expect too much.

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Re: All Things Jurassic Park

Post by ThirdMan » September 17th, 2019, 11:06 am

FemalePheromones wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 11:01 am
ThirdMan wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 8:36 am
Serious question, is Fallen Kingdom worth watching?
Yes but don't expect too much.
Well I won't now!

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Re: All Things Jurassic Park

Post by FemalePheromones » September 17th, 2019, 11:11 am

It had a pretty bad identity crisis but I don't think it's as bad as people seem to make out. As much as I wouldn't watch it again in a hurry I definitely would watch it again some time in the future.

It kind of leads right into that Battle at Big Rock film too.

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Post by duskvstweak » September 17th, 2019, 1:18 pm

Honestly, I enjoyed Fallen Kingdom more on the rewatches than the initial viewing. And, that first five minutes...goodness. Play that on loop at my funeral, please.

As far as I know, Battle at Big Rock is just a promotional piece for the next film, not a series or anything. Maybe it was trying to give the general audience an idea of what to expect, since Fallen Kingdom has those mixed reviews.

There's a lot of Lost World being referenced in that video, too.

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