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Re: Comic Book Chatter

Post by Pitwar » May 1st, 2019, 8:26 am

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The trouble is the format of superhero comics means you can't just follow one series, you have to pick up issues from all different series here and there to follow one storyline. It's always irritated me, and the main reason I always just pick up the trades.
That's not really the case these days. A few books cross over when there's a big event but generally titles just do their own thing.

Back in the 90's for example you had to collect every Superman title to follow the story, but now Superman and Action Comics are very much their own stories, even though both are written by Bendis, there's no crossover between the two titles.

Since TPB's took off and many people read in that format, Marvel and DC try to keep the stories contained to one title so it's easier to reprint in trade.

Saying that, if I started reading comics today I'm sure I'd go the trade route or even go digital. However, I own every Superman comic and related title in their first print comic form from the relaunch back in 1986, so I can't stop now :D

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Re: Comic Book Chatter

Post by Alex79uk » May 1st, 2019, 10:44 am

Wow that's pretty impressive! I must admit I've never managed to really get in to Superman. I've read a few I enjoyed though - I can't remember what it was called but the last one was an origin story where Kent went to work in Africa at one point. That was a good one. I've also got The Death Of Superman or whatever its called to read at some point.

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Re: Comic Book Chatter

Post by Pitwar » May 1st, 2019, 11:11 am

That was Birthright, one of the many retellings of his origin and was pretty decent.

The comic I always recommend to people who don't get Superman is Action Comics #775. It's a one and done story that shows why Supes still means something in this day and age. Well worth a read.

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Re: Comic Book Chatter

Post by Chopper » May 1st, 2019, 12:41 pm

Hey folks, I haven't read any comics for a long time, are there any recommendations (for graphic novels really, complete story or story-arcs preferred) you can give for best-in-class?

I have downloaded Action Comics #775 mentioned by Pitwar above :D

Also, I've just bought Fables Vol 1 and the Jinx collection. I've read the 'classics' like Watchmen, Swamp Thing and Killing Joke etc before. Surprised to see they still feature prominently on the digital comics sites.

Any recommendations are welcome, thanks!

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Re: Comic Book Chatter

Post by Pitwar » May 1st, 2019, 12:48 pm

Saga is a must read. Probably the best comic being printed at the moment.

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Re: Comic Book Chatter

Post by Alex79uk » May 1st, 2019, 2:52 pm

Preacher, Y The Last Man, American Gods, Gotham Central, Sandman...

Fables is good, too.

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Re: Comic Book Chatter

Post by duskvstweak » May 1st, 2019, 3:28 pm

Outside of what's been mentioned,

Kill or Be Killed
Scott Snyder's Batman run (Court of Owls, Death of the Family, Zero Year)
Matt Fraction's Hawkeye run
Irredeemable
Uncanny X-Force and Uncanny Avengers by Rick Remender
Mister Miracle by Tom King
Superior by Mark Millar
Brian Azzarello's Wonder Woman run

I'm sure everyone of us could go on for days.

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Re: Comic Book Chatter

Post by Alex79uk » May 1st, 2019, 3:34 pm

Oh yeah, Snyders Batman run on the New 52 is some of my favorite Batman. It's brilliant. Also, the Nightwing series in New 52 was really fun too.

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Re: Comic Book Chatter

Post by Chopper » May 2nd, 2019, 7:50 am

Thanks for the suggestions folks, much appreciated.

I read a bit of Fables last night and it was great; really like it. The humour, the framing, the story: all excellent. It really brought home how great a job TellTale did on the Wolf Among Us, really cementing its place as the #1 Telltale game (for me of course).

I struggled a bit with Superman and Action Comics #775. I think it was to do with comic literacy, if that makes sense. I'm not up to date with the idea of universes full of all the superheroes and all the villains, for example (I don't really know anything about superhero stuff), and I found the lettering to be a bit crazy - for example the bolded words are meant to be emphasised in speech, yes? The emphasis seemed to be all over the place here, almost random, and contributed to my disorientation.

I liked the underlying themes and nods to the issues we are having with populism, and will read again when I've mulled it over a bit.

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Re: Comic Book Chatter

Post by Pitwar » May 2nd, 2019, 9:34 am

The bold words are probably just a printing thing from back when the issue was published, and not in any way meant to be emphasised when reading.

DC and Marvel still used actual letterers back then rather than relying on computers, so that's why some text can standout more than others.

If you read an Image book like Saga for example, it's very apparent that the lettering is done via a computer compared to by hand.

As far as other good comics that are currently coming out, Naomi from DC is a real sleeper hit and a great read. My review of issue 1 is below if you want an idea of what it's about:

https://youtu.be/jsgR7c87fEI

Mister Miracle by Tom King and Mitch Gerads was recently released in trade and it's one of the best things I've read from the past couple of years. Can't believe I forgot about it when recommending things.

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Re: Comic Book Chatter

Post by duskvstweak » May 2nd, 2019, 4:17 pm

Chopper wrote:
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Thanks for the suggestions folks, much appreciated.

I read a bit of Fables last night and it was great; really like it. The humour, the framing, the story: all excellent. It really brought home how great a job TellTale did on the Wolf Among Us, really cementing its place as the #1 Telltale game (for me of course).

I struggled a bit with Superman and Action Comics #775. I think it was to do with comic literacy, if that makes sense. I'm not up to date with the idea of universes full of all the superheroes and all the villains, for example (I don't really know anything about superhero stuff), and I found the lettering to be a bit crazy - for example the bolded words are meant to be emphasised in speech, yes? The emphasis seemed to be all over the place here, almost random, and contributed to my disorientation.

I liked the underlying themes and nods to the issues we are having with populism, and will read again when I've mulled it over a bit.
You know, if you want Superman but not the continuity requirements, DC tends to be a lot better than Marvel with putting out standalone stories. Might I recommend,

Birthright
Red Son
Secret Identity
All-Star Superman
Secret Origin
Kryptonite by Darwyn Cooke
and maybe Superman: Earth One (though I didn't love it.)

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Re: Comic Book Chatter

Post by Chopper » May 3rd, 2019, 4:21 am

Pitwar wrote:
May 2nd, 2019, 9:34 am
The bold words are probably just a printing thing from back when the issue was published, and not in any way meant to be emphasised when reading.

DC and Marvel still used actual letterers back then rather than relying on computers, so that's why some text can standout more than others.
Ok, I'll not pay much heed to it from now on, thanks.

Thanks for the further recs, both. I will refer back to this thread a bit going forward. Cheers!

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Re: Comic Book Chatter

Post by Chopper » May 4th, 2019, 9:24 am

duskvstweak wrote:
May 1st, 2019, 3:28 pm
Matt Fraction's Hawkeye run
This Hawkeye stuff is currently 60-70% off on Comixology which seems good value.

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Re: Comic Book Chatter

Post by duskvstweak » May 5th, 2019, 1:33 pm

Chopper wrote:
May 4th, 2019, 9:24 am
duskvstweak wrote:
May 1st, 2019, 3:28 pm
Matt Fraction's Hawkeye run
This Hawkeye stuff is currently 60-70% off on Comixology which seems good value.
It's great stuff.

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Re: Comic Book Chatter

Post by Chopper » May 6th, 2019, 6:24 am

I've been going pretty hard at a few graphic novels:

Fables 1 - great.
Jinx - very interesting noir-ish story done in black and white and with very extravagant use of the page's real estate. Story about small-time grifters making a big score, with the usual influences. The interesting part was the flashbacks to previous parts of their lives showing how they got to this point (emotionally).
Judge Dredd: Mega City Zero - this was a bit all over the place. I didn't fully follow the how and why of it, and there seemed to be some leaps of logic that the reader was asked to make to follow the story. Some major swipes at social media and the men's rights (for want of a better word) movement spiced it up but felt out of place. Pretty interesting overall though (and pretty cheap right now for the sheer amount of content).

Continuing to dip in to various recommendations; it's not cheap, this comics lark, is it? :lol:

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Re: Comic Book Chatter

Post by Chopper » May 10th, 2019, 5:44 am

There's a Judge Dredd sale on at the moment on Comixology so I bought some stuff. There's also a free Judge Death comic on there at the moment, all very 80s British: :D

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I enjoyed Hawkeye Vol 1 as mentioned above. Bro!

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Re: Comic Book Chatter

Post by duskvstweak » May 13th, 2019, 2:28 pm

I actually just started an X-Men podcast called Previously on X-Men, with a friend of mine. Our introduction episode is out and then we're talking Giant-Size X-Men #1 this week.
https://radiomeanwhile.com/previously-on-x-men

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Re: Comic Book Chatter

Post by duskvstweak » June 4th, 2019, 5:03 pm

I have some embarrassing gaps in my X-Men reading, so I started going after those, beginning with where I left off of Claremont's run. I had read that from the beginning to the Mutant Massacre era, but then fell off. Now, I'm loving it. Not just because I get to return to some of my favorite X-Men and era, but because the post-Massacre stories, leading up to and including Fall of the Mutants, are so cool. The team is so oft-kilter and strange compared to previous lineups, the stories seem a bit darker and edgier, it's really a wild time. I'm now post-Fall of the Mutants, reading through what builds to the Inferno stories, and I'm glad I made sure to go back.

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Re: Comic Book Chatter

Post by Alex79uk » June 5th, 2019, 5:39 am

I just finished the first All Star Batman book from the Rebirth line. Its Batman taking Two Face back to where they grew up to try to cure him. It's a little messy, and I've not read any of the other Rebirth books yet* (got some of the Batman main series ones for Christmas but not got round to them yet). It was a good read though overall, and worth the trip to the library for.

*So I have no idea why Duke Thomas is Robin!

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Re: Comic Book Chatter

Post by Simonsloth » June 5th, 2019, 8:05 am

Alex79uk wrote:
May 1st, 2019, 2:52 pm
Preacher, Y The Last Man, American Gods, Gotham Central, Sandman...

Fables is good, too.
That’s a really good list.

I’d add Garth Ennis’ The Boys to the list and stick it right near the top. If you handle the graphic nature and twisted sense of humour then you will love it. My recommendation would be to find a half decent comic shop and read the first 10 or so pages. Either you love it or you will hate it.

My absolute favourite is Starman. The complete collection is quite small standing at 6 books spanning the entire series. Outstanding. It’s very nostalgic and in some circles quite an iconic run. Wonderful stuff.

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