Re: Whatcha Been Playing?
Posted: March 26th, 2018, 7:43 am
So I started replaying Wolfenstein the new order because I just had an ich for it I guess and Im kinda of shocked because the game is alot worse then I remembered, I had issues with the game when I first played but I still was overall positive about it but now it's the oposite, the game has good parts but overall Im not liking much.
Basic stuff like presentation are really bad, I mean remember the labor camp mission, I remembered that being so impactfull and interesting but now it feels like a cheap B movie, I really mean that how the cutscenes are made especially the transitions into gameplay are really bad get like less then 5 minutes to know characters and the place, it's a very awkard level and really disapointing given the build up given to it previously, also the whole subplot of the super secret jewish society with incredibly tech is fucking stupid and I hate it.
Another problem I have with the setting which is that it doesnt really feel like 15 years have passed between the opening and the rest of the game, the soldiers look pretty much the same as do the weapons(the nazi ones at least) and the opening already introduces a bunch of overthetop tech like the robot dogs and giant robots. Now Imagine the begining of the game seemed pretty straight foward and seemed more or less like what WW2 should look like and then at the end you get the time skip and there's all this crazy tech, it would be alot better in my opinion when you wake up from the coma seeing this new nazi world should be jarrying both visually and gameplaywise, the biggest problem I have reguarding the time skip however is that it doesnt seem to affect the characters, I mean BJ was in virtually a coma for 15 years and yet looks exactly the same as he did in 1946 so does Anya who took care of him for all that time, the worst part comes when after being locked in a chair for 15 years BJ just gets up and starts murdering nazis like it was tuesday and Im left completelly dumbfounded, now you might call these criticisms of mine silly given this is a game where you shoot nazis on the moon but the main story is trying to take itself seriously so these problems kinda of stand out.
To make a comparison MGSV has a similar opening and set up but executes about 100 times better, people complain that it can be slow but the opening sequence really gets its point across: you have to crawl and you cant defend yourself, you survive mostly thanks to luck and by the end you're just barely walking, that doesnt stop the opening from being tense and action packed, the intro even has a flaming unicorn and Whale and yet none of that feels out of place like how in Wolfenstein BJ quickly jump up and is stabbing Nazis from second 1.
The story isnt all bad there are some flashes of brillance with what Im finding to be a pretty mediocre story like how your first resistance mission involves aiding a suicide bomber, it's great not only because it's a good moment but because it makes you realize how the resistance is fighting, I would've loved to see this side explored like it was in say Battlestar Galatica where at the height of the "war on terror" an American Tv show had the good guys plan suicide bombings and talk about insurgency and counterinsurgency, unfortunally here it's just a moment from a character we didnt even know for 5 minutes and then it's back to shooting nazis because who needs to think right?
While I overall like BJ as a character I dont like how the game seems to put him as this great hero, I really hate that he survives this game and goes on to be hero man again in the sequel because what BJ should've been portrayed as was a man out of time fighting a war that was already lost long ago, you get some of that with the letters of the nurse that was a nazi serial killer and as you read the letters you see her slowly coming to the soul crushing realization that no matter how many nazis she kills she cant win. I think BJ's story should've been similar and that's why his death at the end of New Order would make so much sense, BJ's victory shouldnt come from killing all the nazis and saving the world or some other boring cliché it should be about restoring some hope to this dreadfull world by saving someone, by loving this woman who took care of him for 15 years.
Im only so critical because I feel the game was on the cusp of doing something great and different but instead went down the same boring road of a shallow power fantasy.
I wrote all of this and I still didnt get to the gameplay which is also worse then I remembered, if I finnish this replay I'll talk about in the other thread but this one I dont think I can blame the game entirerly, lets just say that Playing DOOM(2016) might've negatively affected how I view other FPSs.
Basic stuff like presentation are really bad, I mean remember the labor camp mission, I remembered that being so impactfull and interesting but now it feels like a cheap B movie, I really mean that how the cutscenes are made especially the transitions into gameplay are really bad get like less then 5 minutes to know characters and the place, it's a very awkard level and really disapointing given the build up given to it previously, also the whole subplot of the super secret jewish society with incredibly tech is fucking stupid and I hate it.
Another problem I have with the setting which is that it doesnt really feel like 15 years have passed between the opening and the rest of the game, the soldiers look pretty much the same as do the weapons(the nazi ones at least) and the opening already introduces a bunch of overthetop tech like the robot dogs and giant robots. Now Imagine the begining of the game seemed pretty straight foward and seemed more or less like what WW2 should look like and then at the end you get the time skip and there's all this crazy tech, it would be alot better in my opinion when you wake up from the coma seeing this new nazi world should be jarrying both visually and gameplaywise, the biggest problem I have reguarding the time skip however is that it doesnt seem to affect the characters, I mean BJ was in virtually a coma for 15 years and yet looks exactly the same as he did in 1946 so does Anya who took care of him for all that time, the worst part comes when after being locked in a chair for 15 years BJ just gets up and starts murdering nazis like it was tuesday and Im left completelly dumbfounded, now you might call these criticisms of mine silly given this is a game where you shoot nazis on the moon but the main story is trying to take itself seriously so these problems kinda of stand out.
To make a comparison MGSV has a similar opening and set up but executes about 100 times better, people complain that it can be slow but the opening sequence really gets its point across: you have to crawl and you cant defend yourself, you survive mostly thanks to luck and by the end you're just barely walking, that doesnt stop the opening from being tense and action packed, the intro even has a flaming unicorn and Whale and yet none of that feels out of place like how in Wolfenstein BJ quickly jump up and is stabbing Nazis from second 1.
The story isnt all bad there are some flashes of brillance with what Im finding to be a pretty mediocre story like how your first resistance mission involves aiding a suicide bomber, it's great not only because it's a good moment but because it makes you realize how the resistance is fighting, I would've loved to see this side explored like it was in say Battlestar Galatica where at the height of the "war on terror" an American Tv show had the good guys plan suicide bombings and talk about insurgency and counterinsurgency, unfortunally here it's just a moment from a character we didnt even know for 5 minutes and then it's back to shooting nazis because who needs to think right?
While I overall like BJ as a character I dont like how the game seems to put him as this great hero, I really hate that he survives this game and goes on to be hero man again in the sequel because what BJ should've been portrayed as was a man out of time fighting a war that was already lost long ago, you get some of that with the letters of the nurse that was a nazi serial killer and as you read the letters you see her slowly coming to the soul crushing realization that no matter how many nazis she kills she cant win. I think BJ's story should've been similar and that's why his death at the end of New Order would make so much sense, BJ's victory shouldnt come from killing all the nazis and saving the world or some other boring cliché it should be about restoring some hope to this dreadfull world by saving someone, by loving this woman who took care of him for 15 years.
Im only so critical because I feel the game was on the cusp of doing something great and different but instead went down the same boring road of a shallow power fantasy.
I wrote all of this and I still didnt get to the gameplay which is also worse then I remembered, if I finnish this replay I'll talk about in the other thread but this one I dont think I can blame the game entirerly, lets just say that Playing DOOM(2016) might've negatively affected how I view other FPSs.