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Oh really? That's a shame I guess that you bought four books and didn't like it. I started it recently and am enjoying it, but it is very 'soap opera'. Y: The Last Man remains one of my favourite all time series though. I've only ever read it once, the entire run during a holiday to Lanzarote about ten years ago. I'm thinking of reading it again soon, I might actually buy the books this time. I read it all on a tiny iPod touch first time round!

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I bought the four of them during a Comixology sale so at least it wasn't a big purchase.

There's a type of humour running throughout the series that's also endemic in comics generally. I blithely dismissed it as 'adolescent' but it's clearly a calculated and major element of many publishers' output. You can see it in Saga's use of profanity, indulging itself as if its parents aren't looking. I felt immature when I was reading it.

However I'm clearly in the minority because it's bagged every major award multiple times, and even though I didn't like it, I can see why its social commentary and gender politics have struck the right chord. I'm happy to hear you're enjoying it.

Yeah, I too downloaded Y: The Last Man. I read it all on an iPhone! I've promised myself that I'll eventually pick up the omnibus edition which collects the entire series. It definitely belongs on my shelf.

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I re-sub to Comixology every now and then, whenever I'm getting a bit burnt out on my Marvel Unlimited and need something different. I've been using this month's sub to read through Wildstorm and Authority, which I loved. Also the semi-recent Bloodshot series, which started out great and then went downhill with crossovers I had no intention of following up on. Might go back and check out the original 90s issues of that and Shadow Man...

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I have just finished reading The Sandman: Overture, and I'm genuinely disappointed to report I didn't really like it. I found it confusing, and in places borderline incoherent - the closest approximation I can find to reference is Grant Morrison's diabolical run on Batman. This was nowhere near as bad as that, but equally difficult to follow.

I've been a Sandman since I was a 17 year old boy in 1997 or thereabouts. I still consider it my favourite comic book series of all time, and this certainly didn't sour my view on it, but after waiting so many years I just wish I'd enjoyed this more. I think I'm going to have to read it again.

I know Flabyo enjoyed this book, and would love to talk about it some more if you're interested in posting your thoughts?

EDIT: I will add, everything about this book other than the story is amazing. Beautiful, psychedelic artwork, lovely gated fold out pages, tons of content and interviews at the end and just really nicely presented. It's definitely nice to have on the shelf.

EDIT 2: Added a 'didn't' that was meant to be there and changed the meaning of the whole sentence!!!

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I think the massive gap in time between me reading the original series and overture might have something to do with it.

I mainly liked .. spoiler time...
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The main idea of it was that it filled in one of the gaps, and gave a little more context to why Dream commits his elaborate suicide at the end of The Kindly Ones.

On Overture he works with Desire to essentially reboot the universe, with the result that only he knows it happened. So now you can read the Sandman stories sent in the period after he escapes his imprisonment as him coming to terms with the fact that he’s not actually *from* this universe, and that they need a Dream who is.

As I said up thread, I know a lot of people aren’t fond of it, some prefer to not have threads tied off, I just found it to be quite a fun turn of things.

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Yeah it does put the previous (but chronologically later) work in an interesting context, I guess. I did enjoy the final panel of the main story (before the epilogue), that seemed a nice thing to loop it back to the start of the series. Yeah, I think I'm someone who really prefers ends tied up and literal meanings to things, which really begs the question as to why I enjoyed the original series so much in the first place! Having re-read the entire run over the last 12 months though, I definitely still do love it.

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That's too bad about the Overture! I loved it, though I haven't reread the main series since I was a teenager. My wife got me the full set for our anniversary so I've got to sit down and do it now!

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I'm currently reading the Spider-Man Marvel Masterworks series, which is a reprint of the entire run of the Amazing Spider-Man series. Going right back to 1963, these stories really are timeless, really enjoying them. I've got the same for the Hulk ready to read, too.

I'm also about to start properly Saga Of The Swamp Thing which is the Alan Moore run on the character from the early 80's. Only read a bit of it before, but I got a couple of the trade paperbacks for Christmas and really excited to get in to them.

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Alex79uk wrote:
March 3rd, 2020, 2:35 pm
I'm currently reading the Spider-Man Marvel Masterworks series, which is a reprint of the entire run of the Amazing Spider-Man series. Going right back to 1963, these stories really are timeless, really enjoying them. I've got the same for the Hulk ready to read, too.

I'm also about to start properly Saga Of The Swamp Thing which is the Alan Moore run on the character from the early 80's. Only read a bit of it before, but I got a couple of the trade paperbacks for Christmas and really excited to get in to them.
1. I think Stan Lee's Spider-Man is exactly that, timeless. It's amazing (ha!) to compare those stories to what was going on in comics around the same time, especially DC. When I was first getting into comics, my library at the Essential Spider-Man collection, the black and white reprints and I devoured them.

2. I read Swamp Thing in my twenties and I loved it. I think Alan Moore's Gothic horror in those books also makes them a bit timeless as well. You're in for a treat!

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Has anyone on here kept up with Batman..?

I finished the Batman New 52 run a couple of years ago and loved it, one of my all time favorite runs. I'm now looking at starting Rebirth.

I've been slowly collecting the Bat-Family books over the last couple of years and am not really that interested in characters outside of these few. But, I have some questions I was hoping someone might be able to help with.

1) Batman Rebirth #1 starts with Duke Thomas turning up at Wayne Manor. I had to go and remind myself who he was as I'd totally forgotten about him, and realised there's a series I'd not picked up whilst collecting Rebirth - We Are Robin. Where would this come in the Rebirth timeline? Should I read it before the first Batman book (I collect trades rather than single issues) or does it come a bit later on.

2) Is there an 'event' that bridges the gap between New 52 and Rebirth, and is it worth reading? Rebirth seems to start rather abruptly with Flash spinning through time and everyone forgetting stuff from the past (in DC Rebirth #1) and I feel like I've missed something!

3) I've also been collecting Dark Nights: Metal. Would anyone be able to tell me where I should read this in relation to the Bat-series of books?

4) Same question as above but for Doomsday Clock.

Apologies for all the questions, but thought I'd see if anyone knows!

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Alex79uk wrote:
March 12th, 2020, 8:58 pm
Has anyone on here kept up with Batman..?

I finished the Batman New 52 run a couple of years ago and loved it, one of my all time favorite runs. I'm now looking at starting Rebirth.

I've been slowly collecting the Bat-Family books over the last couple of years and am not really that interested in characters outside of these few. But, I have some questions I was hoping someone might be able to help with.

1) Batman Rebirth #1 starts with Duke Thomas turning up at Wayne Manor. I had to go and remind myself who he was as I'd totally forgotten about him, and realised there's a series I'd not picked up whilst collecting Rebirth - We Are Robin. Where would this come in the Rebirth timeline? Should I read it before the first Batman book (I collect trades rather than single issues) or does it come a bit later on.

2) Is there an 'event' that bridges the gap between New 52 and Rebirth, and is it worth reading? Rebirth seems to start rather abruptly with Flash spinning through time and everyone forgetting stuff from the past (in DC Rebirth #1) and I feel like I've missed something!

3) I've also been collecting Dark Nights: Metal. Would anyone be able to tell me where I should read this in relation to the Bat-series of books?

4) Same question as above but for Doomsday Clock.

Apologies for all the questions, but thought I'd see if anyone knows!
I've been keeping up with Tom King's Batman. It's worth reading...even though I haven't loved everything he's done. He's got a unique style that has been rubbing me the wrong way, but I can't deny he's got a vision (he also wrote the Vision). That would be what I would suggest reading, and see how you feel about it.

Now, I could be wrong, but I think you can just pick up DC Universe: Rebirth #1 and then go with whichever title you like (such as Batman).

I think it's safe to read Dark Nights: Metal whenever you want? I read it when it hit trades and I did fine, even though it got messy.

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Current humble bundle is the Dynamite comics take on James Bond.

https://www.humblebundle.com/books/jame ... mite-books

These are *really* good. They started out with the Bond estate asking Warren Ellis to write a bond comic based on the bond from the books rather than the one from the movies. (That one is ‘Vargr’).

They only get better from there.

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Vargr is very good Bond. I picked up the latest issue by Vita Ayala and Danny Lore and the quality continues.

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Marvel Unlimited is doing a free month with select stories. Might be a nice way to spend your days right now...

https://www.marvel.com/articles/comics/ ... =85684248

And Comixology has a 60 day free trial right now. It works even if you've had an account before, because I did, and now I do!

https://www.comixology.com/unlimited

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Ah brilliant, nice one :)

EDIT: Ah man, we can't get Comixology Unlimited in the UK, it's US only at the moment :(

EDIT 2: Hmm, seems like our equivalent is Kindle Unlimited which features quite a few comics.

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