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Re: Videogame News

Post by Alex79uk » August 4th, 2018, 8:03 am

Yeah I can understand where you're coming from too, and I will, in future, try to either back up things I say better, or at least not try to counter an argument I cannot do!

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Re: Videogame News

Post by Flabyo » August 5th, 2018, 8:08 pm

Lot of things being announced at EVO today.

There’s a Nintendo direct for Smash on Wednesday, some more Soul Calibur 6 characters have been revealed (Mina! Yay!), and there’ll be more for sure.

We know we’ll see some stuff for the SFV character ‘G’ as he’s next in the list of season 3 dlc.

Will we see something Tekken announced in a couple of hours?

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Re: Videogame News

Post by Suits » August 6th, 2018, 5:57 am

Flabyo wrote:
August 5th, 2018, 8:08 pm
Lot of things being announced at EVO today.

There’s a Nintendo direct for Smash on Wednesday, some more Soul Calibur 6 characters have been revealed (Mina! Yay!), and there’ll be more for sure.

We know we’ll see some stuff for the SFV character ‘G’ as he’s next in the list of season 3 dlc.

Will we see something Tekken announced in a couple of hours?
Oh great, a dedicated Direct for Smash - wait........ :| .

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Re: Videogame News

Post by Joshihatsumitsu » August 7th, 2018, 9:31 am

More M2 ShotTriggers goodness with a release date announced for Ketsui: Kizuna Jigoku Tachi - 29th November 2018.

Again, PS4, and again, pretty much Japan. But hey, it's a region free platform, so just requires importing or having a Japanese PSN account - both doable.

Vague details on the official site.

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Re: Videogame News

Post by ratsoalbion » August 7th, 2018, 10:05 am

I still only have Battle Garegga from this series. Should probably rectify that!

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Re: Videogame News

Post by ThirdDrawing » August 7th, 2018, 3:09 pm

The World Ends With You for Switch is coming out October 12th.

Should be fun.

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Re: Videogame News

Post by Suits » August 7th, 2018, 5:24 pm

Alex79uk wrote:
August 7th, 2018, 3:18 pm
IGN in hot water for plagiarism!

https://kotaku.com/ign-pulls-review-aft ... 1828157939
I posted about this this morning, albeit in the podcasts thread, it seems it's gotten rather a lot of attention all day.
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August 7th, 2018, 7:04 am
Does anyone on hear listen to IGN's NVC (Nintendo Voice Chat) ??

It's fallen a long way from it's older Jose Otero days but I still religiously listen to it as soon as it's up.

The new host Filip Miucen has taken a long time to warm up to the podcast I feel and even after a year doesn't seem like a natural leader for the show.

The shy and seemingly quiet host has now been caught up in a plagiarism row, where it appears that his Dead Cells review has more than a few almost identical phrases of text from a video review of the same game two weeks prior.

As you can imagine, the internet is calling for his head on a stick at the moment.

IGN have since removed the review with a note saying it's under investigation.

Here's the article pointing out the similarities of the review.

https://www.spieltimes.com/news/igns-de ... giarisied/

Serious stuff.

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Re: Videogame News

Post by Joshihatsumitsu » August 8th, 2018, 6:38 am

I don't go to IGN expecting plagiarism; I go to IGN for my fix of hyperbole!

Not a fan of IGN either way... plagiarism is bad, but my journalistic expectations in regards to IGN are already pretty low...

Just my opinion... there are probably very professional people who work there, but yeah...

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Post by Suits » August 8th, 2018, 7:13 am

Filip Muicen fired it seems.

I suppose that was the only outcome in this regard.

IGN have certainly had their fair share of issues in the past few years Kallie Plagge etc...

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Post by Alex79uk » August 8th, 2018, 9:35 am

Joshihatsumitsu wrote:
August 8th, 2018, 6:38 am
I don't go to IGN expecting plagiarism; I go to IGN for my fix of hyperbole!

Not a fan of IGN either way... plagiarism is bad, but my journalistic expectations in regards to IGN are already pretty low...

Just my opinion... there are probably very professional people who work there, but yeah...
I dunno, I like it, it's generally the first place I'll look for a review on the rare occasion I read them. (I very rarely read a review for a game I haven't already started!)

I think it's the podcasts I enjoy more then just kind of drift towards the site when I'm looking for info. I like their best of lists they do from time to time, too.

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Post by Joshihatsumitsu » August 8th, 2018, 9:44 am

There's some inherit value in the site, and if you were a journalist starting out then working at IGN would be great experience, but yeah... to each there own I guess. It's not fair to bag out the whole organisation for the failings of a few bad apples.

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Re: Videogame News

Post by KSubzero1000 » August 8th, 2018, 11:30 am

Suits wrote:
August 8th, 2018, 7:13 am
Filip Muicen fired it seems.

I suppose that was the only outcome in this regard.
Dunno, I think giving said writer a salary cut and donating the majority of the article's revenue to the youtuber in question for six months would have been a better and more productive solution. As it stands now, everyone loses. Again. IGN loses even more credibility, Miucin is being hounded down on twitter, and the youtuber is only getting a hokey PR "apology" for his troubles.

Don't get me wrong: plagiarism is a very real issue, especially for writers and comedians and the like. I know people who have been affected by it, and it sucks. People shouldn't do it, and it shouldn't be brushed under the table when discovered. But I can also empathize with a newly hired reviewer buckling under the intense pressure of his newfound workload and hastily copying from a video.

I don't know how controversial this may be, but I feel like this trend of instantly firing people as soon as an infraction has been made public has more to do with generating positive PR / damage control than with fostering a healthy work environment. And I would prefer to see internet furor being directed at high-impact, high-ranking criminals rather than easy and soon-to-be-obsolete targets like Miucin. There is a discrepancy at play here that doesn't sit right with me.


PS: I realize I'm also giving the writer the benefit of the doubt here. It's entirely possible he's a lazy con artist who's done this before and was planning on doing it again, but eh.

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Re: Videogame News

Post by Suits » August 8th, 2018, 12:29 pm

KSubzero1000 wrote:
August 8th, 2018, 11:30 am
Suits wrote:
August 8th, 2018, 7:13 am
Filip Muicen fired it seems.

I suppose that was the only outcome in this regard.
Dunno, I think giving said writer a salary cut and donating the majority of the article's revenue to the youtuber in question for six months would have been a better and more productive solution. As it stands now, everyone loses. Again. IGN loses even more credibility, Miucin is being hounded down on twitter, and the youtuber is only getting a hokey PR "apology" for his troubles.

Don't get me wrong: plagiarism is a very real issue, especially for writers and comedians and the like. I know people who have been affected by it, and it sucks. People shouldn't do it, and it shouldn't be brushed under the table when discovered. But I can also empathize with a newly hired reviewer buckling under the intense pressure of his newfound workload and hastily copying from a video.

I don't know how controversial this may be, but I feel like this trend of instantly firing people as soon as an infraction has been made public has more to do with generating positive PR / damage control than with fostering a healthy work environment. And I would prefer to see internet furor being directed at high-impact, high-ranking criminals rather than easy and soon-to-be-obsolete targets like Miucin. There is a discrepancy at play here that doesn't sit right with me.


PS: I realize I'm also giving the writer the benefit of the doubt here. It's entirely possible he's a lazy con artist who's done this before and was planning on doing it again, but eh.
I've been thinking about and talking about this a lot with Kayleigh, as I feel generally shocked by this, as I've listened to every NVC FM has done since he joined IGN - so I kinda feel hurt by this, as weird as it might sound.

I say the only outcome was for him to be fired, not because I though that was right but by the absolute calamity that I saw unfold on twitter and IGN more than likely felt like their hand was forced, which bing the establishment that they are i I can understand this reaction concerning plagiarism in the content that they are putting their name too.

I also think that there may well be more to this than meets the eye - on both fronts.

FM was clearly struggling with the roll (Podcast/Video host) I feel as Nintendo Editor at IGN, he was fresh in as a YT amateur and was clearly blown away by it all. Even a year later he still seemed very often like a rabbit in the headlights and struggled greatly with the other personalities and powerful characters at IGN, he was getting better as a host but it never seemed natural for him - in my opinion.

Now, it's not beyond the realms of possibility that he did reach out for help on a number of occasions and people have helped him along, the others at IGN don't seem to be the type to let someone fail and I'm sure would have been there for him should he need help.

Which makes me wonder why on earth did he do this, it doesn't make sense.

The IGN statement says that the writer involved in the review has been fired, not FM. Look into that how you will but why not say his name - everyone knows its him.

Unless it wasn't him that reviewed it ? Maybe someone stepped in and helped ?

I wonder if more will come out about this and it'll be an interesting show on Friday.

Also, as I understand it, IGN have been in contact with Boomstick Gaming and had discussions about compensation.

Very much car crash TV at the moment.

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Re: Videogame News

Post by Suits » August 10th, 2018, 6:11 am

Just on this again, if anyone is interested, but Brian Altano (IGN Chief Editor - who likely would have been the one to deal with teh situation first hand as Peer is out of the county in Japan) Tweeted this yesterday;

Thing that people don’t hear enough:

If you’re overwhelmed with something you’re doing, don’t hesitate to reach out for help.

Ask a friend/colleague/family member and just say “Hey, this is tough and I need assistance.”

There’s no shame in that. Just ask. You’ll feel better.

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Re: Videogame News

Post by Alex79uk » August 10th, 2018, 8:51 am

Vita hacking?

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Re: Videogame News

Post by KSubzero1000 » August 10th, 2018, 11:18 am

Alex79uk wrote:
August 10th, 2018, 8:51 am
Vita hacking?
...Could you go into a tiny bit more detail, perhaps?

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Post by Alex79uk » August 10th, 2018, 11:46 am

KSubzero1000 wrote:
August 10th, 2018, 11:18 am
Alex79uk wrote:
August 10th, 2018, 8:51 am
Vita hacking?
...Could you go into a tiny bit more detail, perhaps?
Haha I don't know what happened there! The forum went a bit haywire and I wrote a post about Vita hacking and Flabyo said he'd put it on mute on Twitter, but I don't think he was actually replying to me but I didn't see any other posts!

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Re: Videogame News

Post by Flabyo » August 10th, 2018, 4:31 pm

That was reply to something weeks ago...

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Re: Videogame News

Post by KSubzero1000 » August 13th, 2018, 4:48 am

Today in Capcom being Capcom:

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(Approx. $680.00 USD)

Meanwhile, for $249.00 USD...

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